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it is also the second most watched debate ever after the 1980 meeting between ronald reagan and jimmy carter. senator biden and governor palin met at washington university in st. louis. it is one hour 40 minutes. good evening. the commission on presidential debates is a sponsor of this event and the two remaining presidential debates. tonight's discussion will cover a wide range of topics, including domestic and foreign- policy matters. it will be divided roughly into it will be divided roughly into
it is also the second most watched debate ever after the 1980 meeting between ronald reagan and jimmy carter. senator biden and governor palin met at washington university in st. louis. it is one hour 40 minutes. good evening. the commission on presidential debates is a sponsor of this event and the two remaining presidential debates. tonight's discussion will cover a wide range of topics, including domestic and foreign- policy matters. it will be divided roughly into it will be divided roughly...
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ronald reagan in 1984 lost his train of thought if his first statement. gwen: on the pacific coast highway. >> right. and it gave rise to questions as -- if he was too old. this was a case that i thought from start to finish governor romney was the dominant character in the debate. he was much more forceful so in that sense its it was a much more decisive case of somebody winning and somebody losing. >> there wasn't that single moment that memorable you're no jack kennedy kind of putdown. it was very strong substantive. in fact, the president said this was a terrific debate. he might not have thought that later whether he got to reviews. >> if you look at romney's opening statements, he touched all the things he needed to. he talked about voters in ohio and nevada. i feel your pain. gwen: told stories. >> told stories. he did the five things he's running on. he talked about the president's past. respectfully said it wasn't going in the right direction. then 0 minutes later after a good cut and thrust between the two of them he delivered a near-flawless cl
ronald reagan in 1984 lost his train of thought if his first statement. gwen: on the pacific coast highway. >> right. and it gave rise to questions as -- if he was too old. this was a case that i thought from start to finish governor romney was the dominant character in the debate. he was much more forceful so in that sense its it was a much more decisive case of somebody winning and somebody losing. >> there wasn't that single moment that memorable you're no jack kennedy kind of...
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reagan, if not more. >> he'll do better than ronald reagan. >> i felt that for a long time, so... >> arthel: carl cameron is live in apopka, florida where the governor is set to take the stage, fund-raising news from both campaigns, carl? >> reporter: that's right, may be a while before we see governor romney, it is lightning country in florida and the campaign's arrival is delayed because of fear that it might be a threatening storm. a big crowd here and big money raised by mitt romney since the debate. his debate performance clearly caught the attention of both republicans, who were worried about the trajectory of his campaign and new voters and the campaign is reporting since the debate performance they've raked in more than $12 million, and, just today, the romney campaign undertaking a national teleconference, and phone banking exercise, made another 2 million contacts with what they hope to be new republican voters. it is a $12 million boost into the debate for mitt romney and stands in the face of staggering numbers from the barack obama campaign reporting last month they coll
reagan, if not more. >> he'll do better than ronald reagan. >> i felt that for a long time, so... >> arthel: carl cameron is live in apopka, florida where the governor is set to take the stage, fund-raising news from both campaigns, carl? >> reporter: that's right, may be a while before we see governor romney, it is lightning country in florida and the campaign's arrival is delayed because of fear that it might be a threatening storm. a big crowd here and big money...
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in fact, you know, the unemployment rate for ronald reagan was higher and the unemployment rate for the president. >> well, it went to 10.8, i believe... and i mean, if you are saying that ronald reagan inherited a worse economy. >> gregg: he did. >> i don't know how you can make the argument. >> gregg: are you kidding. >> we lost 800,000 jobs. >> gregg: unemployment was higher, inflation was higher and interest rates were higher. >> in twa2009, january we lost 741,000 jobs and if that trend continued, we almost had a second great depression... >> gregg: i hear you. i hear you. justin, a lot of folks are afraid to invest in the stock market. interest rates are so incredibly low, the opposite of what ronald reagan had and, you can't really invest in cd's and money market account and that is not keeping up with inflation. and that left americans with, you know, stagnant savings account and diminished personal wealth and that is an important election factor, too? >> well, especially, it is an important election factor, especially here in the state of florida, we have a large number of seni
in fact, you know, the unemployment rate for ronald reagan was higher and the unemployment rate for the president. >> well, it went to 10.8, i believe... and i mean, if you are saying that ronald reagan inherited a worse economy. >> gregg: he did. >> i don't know how you can make the argument. >> gregg: are you kidding. >> we lost 800,000 jobs. >> gregg: unemployment was higher, inflation was higher and interest rates were higher. >> in twa2009, january...
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reagan. but the moment he got into office, he really began switching very quickly to the right. and now you have -- i don't know what you have today, because now it seems like he is coming back to the center. >> i want to play a romney ad that ran shortly before the election in 2002. let's take a listen to that. >> i want to sell the tremendous benefits of our commonwealth to america's finest companies and bring great jobs here. i want folks in other states to look at us and think i wish i lived in massachusetts. >> he is talking to construction workers. he is handing out hot dogs. in an effort to connect with voters clearly. >> a little baloney too. >> well, hey, it apparently worked though. >> it did. >> should the obama campaign be careful not to assume that voters will write romney off as this out-of-touch rich guy? >> he is very, very practiced. this is what i have said for the past couple of weeks. he gets into the debate prep room. he practices and practices. and the answer come across
reagan. but the moment he got into office, he really began switching very quickly to the right. and now you have -- i don't know what you have today, because now it seems like he is coming back to the center. >> i want to play a romney ad that ran shortly before the election in 2002. let's take a listen to that. >> i want to sell the tremendous benefits of our commonwealth to america's finest companies and bring great jobs here. i want folks in other states to look at us and think i...
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reagan's approach through peace through strength. that a strong america is what dissuaded them from attacking our interest. i think that president obama has exactly the opposite point of view. he believes that american strength is provocative. he's one of those people that jean kirkpatrick called a blame america first democrat and thinks if america is more retiring from the world, seeing that the rest of the world will treat us better. i think that's totally divorced from reality. >> kelly: you know, we're talking about issues as relates to benghazi, libya, but there's also iran and syria and also the entire middle east. looking ahead, what do you anticipate from a possible romney presidency with regard to dealing with those particular situations and even israel? >> well, i think the reverse of the president's view of the world is, it's not american strength that's provocative. it's american weakness that's provocative. i think a lot of our adversaries, internationally have looked at the obama white house. they see a weak and inatten
reagan's approach through peace through strength. that a strong america is what dissuaded them from attacking our interest. i think that president obama has exactly the opposite point of view. he believes that american strength is provocative. he's one of those people that jean kirkpatrick called a blame america first democrat and thinks if america is more retiring from the world, seeing that the rest of the world will treat us better. i think that's totally divorced from reality. >>...
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when you put machine up against ronald reagan. they will fail because it is ronald reagan. let mitt romney have his moment and applaud him and not try to tie him to the past but look to the future. >> why do people say you need that phrase and sentence in a debate that can be remembered for people going forward for the generation toz come. why do you have to have that pivotal moment. >> they are the game changer. whether the age issue with mondale there you go again . are you better off today than you are four years ago in great moments. different time and place that we are in than we were back in 1980 even though there are many similarities. society is different today than it was back in the 1980s. and so we have to change and understand it from that view point. >> let me ask you going forward, what are your expectations as mitt romney prepares for his next big face off with the president? >> he can't have a down moment. i think what happened we see it in the polls. you see the polls change things are getting closer and mitt romney is in the lead. people saw them for the f
when you put machine up against ronald reagan. they will fail because it is ronald reagan. let mitt romney have his moment and applaud him and not try to tie him to the past but look to the future. >> why do people say you need that phrase and sentence in a debate that can be remembered for people going forward for the generation toz come. why do you have to have that pivotal moment. >> they are the game changer. whether the age issue with mondale there you go again . are you better...
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reagan for that matter. onto the conspiracy theory, jared bernstein, we heard from him earlier, he told me also this doesn't deserve any oxygen at all but others keep piling on. are you surprised by these claims from prominent people, well-respected people in industry? >> well, there are two different sort of sets on the republican side here. one is the jack welch side, the steve forbes, the people who are promulgating this conspiracy. the others are the folks who are serious economists. you talk to jared bernstein on the left. but douglashall john mccain's former policy adviser says the same thing in a story this morning. elaine child the former george w. bush's labor secretary said the same thing. so serious republicans who understand that these are two totally different surveys, they sort of understand the process and the way bls works there's not really a conspiracy here. >> can i ask you? you've been around d.c. for a long time. has anyone ever questioned this number, any reason to be suspicious of the
reagan for that matter. onto the conspiracy theory, jared bernstein, we heard from him earlier, he told me also this doesn't deserve any oxygen at all but others keep piling on. are you surprised by these claims from prominent people, well-respected people in industry? >> well, there are two different sort of sets on the republican side here. one is the jack welch side, the steve forbes, the people who are promulgating this conspiracy. the others are the folks who are serious economists....
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when ronald reagan waived the big bills around in his state of the union in the late 1980's, the democrats could have pleaded that they did not have microsoft word said they did not have enough time. the continuing resolution last december was very fast. there is others. it seems like when it really, really matters, that's when we are least likely to get the time to read these that really need to defend ourselves as a society. while all these technical advances are a good, the real crucial thing to me is before we pass these huge laws especially in the middle of the night or whatever, what is the political failure here that we still can do this? i would also note that it is doable. if oral care act, there was 72 hours on the conference report. -- on the affordable care act, there was 72 hours on the conference report and nobody argued in a couple of months ago, people complained that they could not stick their amendments in there. this can be done even on a huge things like the affordable care act. i would ask hugh, what can the rules committee to or the members do to enforce an changed ex
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if you look at it, ronald reagan had come from behind and moved slightly ahead of jimmy carter. the question was he up to it, was this actor ready to be president? a lot of people think this was the moment that sealed the deal. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? is there more or less unemployment in the country than there was four years ago? is america as respected? >> fast forward to 2,000, bush/gore race, know how close it was at the end. look at the gyrations, right after the republican convention, george w. bush goes up and al gore gets back in the hunt. come to the first debate with gore ahead but this is when he sighed so much, look, al gore comes down and in the second debate, that moment you talked about a few moments ago, rob portman filling in for al gore prepared george w. bush for this. >> that's what the question in this campaign is about. it's not only what your philosophy and what's your position on issues, but can you get things done, and i believe i can. >> all r
if you look at it, ronald reagan had come from behind and moved slightly ahead of jimmy carter. the question was he up to it, was this actor ready to be president? a lot of people think this was the moment that sealed the deal. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? is there more or less unemployment in the country than there was four years ago? is america as respected? >> fast forward...
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because ronald reagan did poorly in the first debate and there was question about his age. with that one line he kind of disarmed his critic and said yes, i still have it. >> the last memorable moment we want to show you is not so much what someone said, it's what al gore did in terms of moving his body. you know, on wednesday night obviously the candidates both stood behind the podium and that was probably for the best when you look back at what al gore did in his debate versus president bush. >> that's what the question in this campaign is about. it's not only what your philosophy and what your position on issues. but can you get things done? and i believe i can. >> what was that? >> i mean, that's my all-time favorite debate moment because you could see al gore trying to be an alpha and own the room. it came off as awkward and clumsy. president bush looked over and had that give. for a lot of voters it synopsized what they felt like about al gore which is he sun comfortable in his own skin. >> we are watching it again. >> nick ragone thanks so much. historical perspectiv
because ronald reagan did poorly in the first debate and there was question about his age. with that one line he kind of disarmed his critic and said yes, i still have it. >> the last memorable moment we want to show you is not so much what someone said, it's what al gore did in terms of moving his body. you know, on wednesday night obviously the candidates both stood behind the podium and that was probably for the best when you look back at what al gore did in his debate versus president...
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and if you are sort of only peripherally engaged or not the superengaged person, ronald reagan was not engaged in every detail, he could have the stam no-- stamina to do t but obama is engaged in everything. and i do think there is a sense of fat agency that one senses around the white house and one senses around him. nd so to get the passion that he had in 2008, i think is just hard given everything he's been through. >> you think that explains, mark, partly what happened? >> it may well, judy. 48 hours later, first of all, just a personal note, i have speculated on debate night that the president's passive performance and it was quite passive, listless, may have been attributed in part to john kerry, his sparring partner in the prep sessions who is a leading contender to be secretary of state maybe not going tough toe-to-toe to him. my subsequent reporting has, in fact, contradicted that. john kerry, i was told by two eye witnesses was actually tougher inside than mitt romney was with barack obama. >> woodruff: so that's not it. >> no, i don't think that-- i do think what we conclude
and if you are sort of only peripherally engaged or not the superengaged person, ronald reagan was not engaged in every detail, he could have the stam no-- stamina to do t but obama is engaged in everything. and i do think there is a sense of fat agency that one senses around the white house and one senses around him. nd so to get the passion that he had in 2008, i think is just hard given everything he's been through. >> you think that explains, mark, partly what happened? >> it...
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a lot who lived through it seemed to think the best thing about george bush, he is not ronald reagan. ♪ ♪ >> largely as as a result of the policy and priority of reagan administration, more people are becoming poor and staying poor in the country than many times since world war ii. ♪ >> if there's anything left ronald reagan trickle down theory it seems to be anxiety which seems to be trickle down through every segment of our society. ♪ if you give complearns thomas a little flower you think you have david talking. here is a man who is against everything that has lifted the level of life of -- [inaudible] ♪ i egg and butter many black men do a [inaudible] >> has hard too. he's remember rehenceble person. ♪ your words trickle down terrorist who face their agenda on division, exclusion, and fear. do you think middle class americans are in need of protection. ♪ the new republican majority congress took a big step on the legislative agenda to demolish or damage government-aid programs many of them designed to help children and the poor. ♪ >> the bombing in home city has fo
a lot who lived through it seemed to think the best thing about george bush, he is not ronald reagan. ♪ ♪ >> largely as as a result of the policy and priority of reagan administration, more people are becoming poor and staying poor in the country than many times since world war ii. ♪ >> if there's anything left ronald reagan trickle down theory it seems to be anxiety which seems to be trickle down through every segment of our society. ♪ if you give complearns thomas a little...
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that was ronald reagan, who won the election with a rate of 7.4%. so, the question is, can mr. obama win one like the giper or is the number still bad enough to doom his hopes? well, cue mitt romney. that's what happened today. his team is furiously pointing out how many people are underemployed. last month's household survey found 582,000 of the jobs created involved part time workers who wanted to be full time. plus, no one should forget all the people who have stopped looking for work. romney says this new number or not is not what a recovery looks like. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce, today is on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> "outfront" tonight, ali vels velshi, ethan and a former staff member for president oba's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, daniel mitchell, senior fellow at the cato institute. alan, the numbers sound good. are they? >> i don't care. i'm going to go one further than erin. not only does the absolute number of the unemployment perce
that was ronald reagan, who won the election with a rate of 7.4%. so, the question is, can mr. obama win one like the giper or is the number still bad enough to doom his hopes? well, cue mitt romney. that's what happened today. his team is furiously pointing out how many people are underemployed. last month's household survey found 582,000 of the jobs created involved part time workers who wanted to be full time. plus, no one should forget all the people who have stopped looking for work....
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we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to reagan's number. >> i think how this works with the president's narrative is that we're moving in the right direction, don't change -- you know, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that demonstrably didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that said the economy is moving in the right direction, and i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. and much more than levels of variables like the level of the employment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> i think it was i
we cover elections, not economics generally, but ronald reagan was re-elected with a 7.2% because he said it was the morning in america. optimism was what he sold. he was able to say 7.2% is great news, great news. he got re-elected with 49 states. he lost minnesota and the district of columbia with 7.2%. what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and, oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn close to...
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we had that pace of job creation under ronald reagan, and that level of job creation under bill clinton. >> and a democratic president where the tax rates were higher. >> right, you had a republican congress, welfare reform. >> the highest rate was 39.6%. and the gdp was going up. >> look what happened to the size of the government. he was a very fiscally conservative president unlike barack obama where the budget went through the roof. i think that is a key distinction. >> the era of big government is over. listen to eric, and what he told me about mitt romney yesterday here in "the situation room." the governor believe that's those with continuous coverage should not be dropped if they change their plans and have a pre-existing condition. states are well situated to manage these issues. we did it in massachusetts, and they can do it in other states as well. >> mitt romney says he wants to make sure that people can get insurance even if they have pre-existing conditions, but if he gives the states the opportunity to come up with their own plans, there's no guarantee that will do that.
we had that pace of job creation under ronald reagan, and that level of job creation under bill clinton. >> and a democratic president where the tax rates were higher. >> right, you had a republican congress, welfare reform. >> the highest rate was 39.6%. and the gdp was going up. >> look what happened to the size of the government. he was a very fiscally conservative president unlike barack obama where the budget went through the roof. i think that is a key distinction....
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>> i think it's premature in the sense in 1980 ronald reagan was running a bad campaign by lots of standards. he made a comment that trees pollute and that didn't go over well. he did say that. i'm serious. he made lots of other gaffes, but he went on to be president beating carter by quite a bit. i think romney is looking for a message. he produced a huge number of ads looking for something. maybe something comes out of the debate. this electorate is pretty hardened, and obama should be up by a point or two given the economy. that's where we are. so romney has not run a great campaign so far, but maybe this debate provides a springboard. we'll see. >> we will see. john gear, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> all the focus is on the candidates this month. october is also important for another reason. it's got something to do with this. >> we can handle gimpy and the at that rant at that heads, because our invitation was not based on barf and mike and molly as part of the crew. >> i guess we're not in the crew anymore. >> you know, i was kind of hoping you'd say that. >> with that, order
>> i think it's premature in the sense in 1980 ronald reagan was running a bad campaign by lots of standards. he made a comment that trees pollute and that didn't go over well. he did say that. i'm serious. he made lots of other gaffes, but he went on to be president beating carter by quite a bit. i think romney is looking for a message. he produced a huge number of ads looking for something. maybe something comes out of the debate. this electorate is pretty hardened, and obama should be...
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remember ronald reagan in 1984. he seemed so out of it. the people were wondering whether he was too old to be president. i think they are simply not ever questioned. they are never held to task like this. megyn: accept your former boss. >> in america we ought to put together a question hour like they have in parliament in the u.k. that would keep the president on their toes. inside the white house there is a bubble where the president does not have to parry like that with another individual. that exposed a weakness in obama. he was not used to that. this was romney's 20th debate in the last year, year and a half. i think we'll see a different president obama next time. megyn: i want to pick up on that. jonah, when we saw president obama yesterday afternoon this time back in front of the teleprompter he sounding like his old self. he had the good lines and the quick firey retoarts and some zingers. average course his supporters were say where was he last night? but others are saying because that guy can't exist without the teleprompter. it
remember ronald reagan in 1984. he seemed so out of it. the people were wondering whether he was too old to be president. i think they are simply not ever questioned. they are never held to task like this. megyn: accept your former boss. >> in america we ought to put together a question hour like they have in parliament in the u.k. that would keep the president on their toes. inside the white house there is a bubble where the president does not have to parry like that with another...
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former administrative assistant to president ronald reagan. they arrived at sun up, left at sundown, about 13 hours on the ground. they collected evidence for about three hours' time. what more do you have on that? >> this is a month later. there are so many problems with this it's hard to know where to start. there was an intelligence failure, why did we not know that there were attacks planned on the ambassador. there had been a number, a string of attacks leading up to this attack. an intelligence failure. two, a security failure. why? in the light of all the security warnings did they not provide the security? who made that decision? and that really is the third point, who made the decision, whose policy was it to not provide adequate security for a united states ambassador in united states territory. for that i think the blame game has started. bill: let me stop you there, because you worked in washington, you know how this works. whose responsibility is it to make a decision to protect the u.s. ambassador overseas? >> i was in the white
former administrative assistant to president ronald reagan. they arrived at sun up, left at sundown, about 13 hours on the ground. they collected evidence for about three hours' time. what more do you have on that? >> this is a month later. there are so many problems with this it's hard to know where to start. there was an intelligence failure, why did we not know that there were attacks planned on the ambassador. there had been a number, a string of attacks leading up to this attack. an...
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bush, ronald reagan was in the white house ronald reagan of take naps during the middle of the day fame, he was president of the united states while john sununu was governor and he probably never would have said of ronald reagan that he is lazy. >> that's a really really good point you make. because you could legitimately say he did not prepare for the debate. >> certainly on style points. but when you take a look at barack obama substancively, the man -- this is a part of a right-wing theme that has been going on out there, mean, i hate that word but this is part of a right-wing theme that said that barack obama is not prepared to be president of the united states, he is the dumbest president of the united states i heard a woman say on the radio, and i think we know who the dumbest president of the united states was -- >> you don't have to go that far far back. >> i think to call him a dumb man is not credible. this is not the first time that john sununu did this. we have some sound from earlier in the year. >> let me tell you what the big problem with this president is in my opinion,
bush, ronald reagan was in the white house ronald reagan of take naps during the middle of the day fame, he was president of the united states while john sununu was governor and he probably never would have said of ronald reagan that he is lazy. >> that's a really really good point you make. because you could legitimately say he did not prepare for the debate. >> certainly on style points. but when you take a look at barack obama substancively, the man -- this is a part of a...
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it happened to ronald reagan in 1984 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible. it happened to george h.w. bush in 1992 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible. it happened to george w. bush in 2004 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible as well. it is hard to be that insulated for four years. and this one takes being insulated to a new degree, this president does. as did george w. bush, i think, in his eight years. so i guess it is human nature to come out and be shocked that somebody's punching you in the face after being so protected and basically play some bubble wrap in four years like we do with our president. >> the president is usually pretty good when the game's on the line. and the game's going to be on the line in two weeks. he's got to perform better or it will be a real problem. i think just to focus on the debates forgets the fact that governor romney needs to perform in the next two weeks. he can't just wait for the next debate. he did a conservative event. he did hannity. i still don't get the logic of his friday. >> how many da
it happened to ronald reagan in 1984 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible. it happened to george h.w. bush in 1992 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible. it happened to george w. bush in 2004 in his first re-election debate. he was terrible as well. it is hard to be that insulated for four years. and this one takes being insulated to a new degree, this president does. as did george w. bush, i think, in his eight years. so i guess it is human nature to come out and be...
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the guy he said was a stiff has become ronald reagan, john wayne combined. so he's a tremendous performer. the president was thinking about something else. he was distracted. the altitude was too high for him. even though he gave his acceptance speech four years ago in denver and didn't have a problem with the altitude. we have one excuse after the another. now on the stump, the president is doing the clint eastwood routine. he's talking to the chair. he's talking to the empty chair and mitt romney. he had an opportunity to speak to mitt romney the other night. instead, he looked dejected, bored, tortured, upset, distracted, tired, confused. not really quite understanding what was going on. now we have this big construction that we got it all wrong. we didn't really see what we saw the other night. >> steve: you know, and it was very telling when people finally were able to see the two of them on the stage together because the main stream media has been pushing this narrative, oh, that mitt romney seen screen left, he's such a robot. he's such a stooge. we s
the guy he said was a stiff has become ronald reagan, john wayne combined. so he's a tremendous performer. the president was thinking about something else. he was distracted. the altitude was too high for him. even though he gave his acceptance speech four years ago in denver and didn't have a problem with the altitude. we have one excuse after the another. now on the stump, the president is doing the clint eastwood routine. he's talking to the chair. he's talking to the empty chair and mitt...
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the incumbent was ronald reagan and got his clock cleaned by mondale. trying to win the first debates against their challengers was 0-3. the next time an incumbent president is facing a challenger is 1992. the incumbent president is george h.w. bush. his major party challenger is a young man from arkansas. there's also this other guy with the big ears and it's the other guy with the big ears who wins the first debate. >> the day after, victory for perot. clinton hold his own. trouble for the president. there's no one scorecard for determining who won and who lost last night, but a consensus does seem to be emerging. ross perot, the star of the night because no one knew what to expect. bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wiwisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >
the incumbent was ronald reagan and got his clock cleaned by mondale. trying to win the first debates against their challengers was 0-3. the next time an incumbent president is facing a challenger is 1992. the incumbent president is george h.w. bush. his major party challenger is a young man from arkansas. there's also this other guy with the big ears and it's the other guy with the big ears who wins the first debate. >> the day after, victory for perot. clinton hold his own. trouble for...
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reagan. do you buy that? the person he's talking against doesn't. cornell belcher and ralph reed join us. stay tuned. 0ñ@ñfÑ >>> welcome back. in raw politics tonight, more on president obama's performance last night in denver, as we have been reporting president obama himself knows that he lost the debate. he's upset about it. here to talk about it tonight, obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher. also, ralph reed. chairman of the faith and freedom coalition. cornell, bored, aloof, some said even arrogant. those are some of the words used today and last night to describe president obama on that stage. what exactly was the strategy heading into this? was there a strategy? >> what you saw last night from the president was the president trying to lay out the facts to those few undecided voters that are still out there. here's our plan, here's how we want to move the country forward versus mitt romney and his plan about moving the country forward. the problem with the debate last night is that o
reagan. do you buy that? the person he's talking against doesn't. cornell belcher and ralph reed join us. stay tuned. 0ñ@ñfÑ >>> welcome back. in raw politics tonight, more on president obama's performance last night in denver, as we have been reporting president obama himself knows that he lost the debate. he's upset about it. here to talk about it tonight, obama 2012 pollster, cornell belcher. also, ralph reed. chairman of the faith and freedom coalition. cornell, bored, aloof,...